Freezin’ ya heart an’ soul. Whew! You be in big trouble then. Yes, Suh. You be in biiiiiig trouble then!” So says Dowie Howard of his best friend, prizefighter Bobby Stitch. But Bobby’s story is about much more than boxing. Panel: How do you feel about Oscar Valdez being cleared to fight despite failing a performance-enhancing drug test? Found insideThe Life of Sugar Ray Robinson, America's Greatest Boxer and the First ... root when he saw the same color on the snazzy tie of boxer Willie Pep's manager. During the primes of Sugar Ray Robinson’s and Willie Pep’s careers, there was no TV and there were many fight venues and fight cards in ever major city, almost every day of … Found insideThere were thousands of other rivals like Tony Zale and Rocky Graziano, Sugar Ray Robinson and Jake LaMotta, or Sandy Saddler and Willie Pep who forced each ... r/boxing does not tolerate racism or intolerance of any kind. This wasn't ppv and making a mockery of the sport though, I watch this and now I think about what Manny Pacquiao was doing right now. Pep could still beat good fighters and he stayed active (12 wins, one loss in 1952; 11 wins in 1953) but he was unceremoniously upset in two rounds by Lulu Perez, a fringe contender, in 1954. Found inside – Page 134Tony Zale III; Sugar Ray Robinson Fights Jake Lamotta 1; Sugar Ray Robinson ... Beau Jack, July 12, 1948; In This Corner—Willie Pep; Willie Pep vs. “That was the greatest night of my life. WE TRADE MEMORABILIA FOR SPORTS CARDS, BASEBALL, FOOTBALL. At 42 years old still challenging the best welterweight in his era after he just took Timothy Bradley's 0 and Keith Thurman's 0? Found inside – Page 378Comparisons to Sugar Ray Robinson and Willie Pep poured in for the kid with the ear-to-ear smile who boxed with balletic artistry. Be respectful and come chat with us. Miburo. “Whenever I lost my head I was playing right into his hands,” Pep said. Pep, not having heard of Robinson, thought he would still have his way with the visitor but soon was under fire. This is a place for friendly and civil debate about the greatest sport on earth. Welcome to r/boxing, the official home of pro boxing on Reddit! This Da Capo edition is supplemented with a new foreword and afterword by Dave Anderson about Sugar Ray's last years in Los Angeles and the legacy he left behind, and with eight new pages of stunning photographs. Oct 1, 1965. 02387149, Tris Dixon celebrates the life of Willie Pep, one of the greatest fighters of all-time, Randolph Turpin vs Sugar Ray Robinson 70 years on, The fight of the ear. Found inside – Page 86Fighting Sugar Ray way back when His amateur fight with Sugar Ray Robinson is one of those juicy nuggets of boxing history.Who knew that these two boys ... Vignettes from a Nov. 24, 2012 interview with boxing promoter Don Elbaum. Oh, how times have changed. Press J to jump to the feed. He was in a bad way for those final years but, ever the humourist, once joked: “Nah, I’m not dead. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. When Mike Tyson bit Evander Holyfield, Muhammad Ali: The fighter who made the greatest impression outside the ring, Thomas Hearns on his incredible fight with Marvin Hagler, Donald Trump to provide ringside commentary for Holyfield-Belfort freak show, Savage Business: Eggington looks to continue making strides against undefeated Frenchman. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Glorified sparring sessions. Pep notched 15 wins on the spin in 1948 before he ran into Saddler, who took Willie’s title. Yet many of the fights that later defined him were still to come, in particular with his nemesis Sandy Saddler. Willie boxed on, as so many do, well beyond his best. Several local boxing enthusiasts had told me of the fight — Bob Woodmansee and John Quigley, among others. Found inside – Page 484... Joe Louis Sugar Ray Robinson Fred Apostoli Beau Jack Willie Pep Tony Zale Gus Lesnevich Ike Williams Ezzard Charles Ezzard Charles Sugar Ray Robinson ... Nineteen forty-four was a very good year for Pep. He won all 16 of his bouts that year, including wins over bantamweight champions Willie Joyce and Manuel Ortiz. He fought and beat Wright two more times, with Pep's featherweight title on the line once. He also made his first fight abroad, beating fringe contender Jackie Lemus in Canada. Found insideI used to watch boxing reels of guys like Sugar Ray Robinson and Willie Pep. A dime would only get you a portion of a fight and I used to spend three or ... Found inside – Page 316Clancy was at ringside for the famous Roberto Duran vs. ... fighters of all-time were as follows: Willie Pep, “Sugar Ray” Robinson, Joe Louis, Archie Moore, ... He won five more times in 1943, including two victories over future world champ Sal Bartolo and he won an astonishing 16 bouts in 1944, with the highlights coming against champions such as Willie Joyce and Ortiz before Chalky Wright was beaten once again. A year on and Saddler took the lead in their series, this time stopping Pep in eight rounds but Willie – his eyes swollen and closing – lasted only a round longer against his bogeyman in their fourth and final clash, in 1951. The names themselves recall the colour and drama of the fight game: the unparalleled undefeated run of featherweight world champion Willie Pep, who relates the story of his glorious encounters with arch-rival Sandy Saddler; the ... Dependent on his adoring wife, Barbara, Willie suffered from pugilistica dementia and lived in a nursing home before he died on November 23, 2006. Still, after turning pro in 1940 – following a paid amateur career (young fighters in Connecticut were often paid to fight) – he built his reputation close to his home, spending the first two years of his pro career fighting in Connecticut and Massachusetts and it was only in his 26th contest when he travelled further afield, to Michigan, where he stopped Eddie Flores in one round. During those somewhat darker days the only name that stands out on his record is that of Hogan ‘Kid’ Basey, who knocked Willie out in nine sessions when trailing on the scorecards. Found inside – Page 268Indictment in case of U.S. v . ... 1181 " Sugar Ray ” Robinson .. 1183 Kid Gavilan .--1185 Marcel Cerdan 1187 Willie Pep .-1189 Joe Brown 1191 Tony De Marco ... Jesus, Pep must have had to go full Pernell Wisp on him to survive, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. All the tools necessary to build a powerful defensive base for boxing—every defense for every punch from every angle—are included in this manual. Sugar Ray Robinson – Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali were both fighters that I looked up to growing up. X. Johnstown War Memorial, Johnstown, Pa. Full nearmint ticket with full bod names, venue backside . Found inside – Page 58... vs Sugar Ray Robinson vs Jake La Motta vs Marcel Cerdan. Willie Pep: dancing, ducking, jabbing and peppering and Joe Louis against Billy Conn, ... Double X. Found inside – Page 76... and his fans would be challenged in that regard by the supporters of such greats as Sugar Ray Robinson and Willie Pep. Robinson, ironically, made his ... This book is about some ghetto kids of the 1930's and 40's who became famous because they learned how to fight better than anyone else. But the final years of his life were lonely and quiet one. Found insideThere were photographs of Sugar Ray Robinson, Sandy Saddler, Willie Pep, Rocky Graziano, Tony Zale, Marcel Cerdan, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, ... Before the fight he was told his unknown opponent was not good, but he recalls quickly learning otherwise once the bout began and Robinson was "all over me. “Three of my wives were very good housekeepers,” he said. Found inside – Page 24Willie Pep, Sugar Ray Robinson, guys of that caliber, they're very creative. They were great. Willie Pep, for example, he done things you never saw anybody ... Found insideHis nickname, Sugar Ray Leonard, was inspired by one of his boxing heroes, Sugar Ray Robinson. #9 WILLIE PEP Big punches and knockouts get most of. This book was written by Connie White at the age of 15. I’ve got a wife and a TV, and they’re both working.”. Found insideRocky Marciano, Sugar Ray Robinson, Willie Pep, Rocky Graziano, ... float like a butterfly and sting like a bee versus the intimidating knockout artist, ... Just a reminder that exhibitions have always been kind of lame and unimportant. I ain’t even been out the house.”. "[5]', 130 lbs to 105? Found inside – Page 166Two days before Halloween, 1948, featherweight champion Willie Pep stepped into the ... SUGAR RAY ROBINSON I, JULY 10, 1951, EARL'S COURT, LONDON, ENGLAND. In my eyes, he was the perfect combination of those two qualities. Willie Pep vs. Sugar Ray Robinson 08-17-2006, 05:11 PM. BUY - SELL -TRADE. Don't miss any action. At 130lbs, Robinson outweighed Pep by around 25lbs and, according to Pep’s … Found inside – Page 284... Sandy Saddler, Sugar Ray Robinson, Willie Pep, Jose Napoles, Archie Moore, Carlos Monzon, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, Henry Armstrong, Carmen Basilio, ... A lot of material was left out of the original book due to sensitivity to subject matter, people, and many situations.(RE: mafia) This is the new book and is a tell-all. This book is a piece of American history. Told by the warrior. Willie Pep was fighting Sugar Ray Robinson — perhaps the greatest middleweight champion the sport has known. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. vs. WILLIE PEP . While some of them are still well known but others aren’t, they have one thing in common: they are all courageous athletes. At the same time, the book is a memoir about growing up in New Haven during the fifties era. Found inside – Page 165Seventy-year-old singer Willie Nelson could be found “on the road again” still ... “Sugar Ray Robinson fighting somebody nobody knew, and Willie Pep ... ray robinson vs willie pep as amateurs? Join Date: Nov 2007 Following another 10 wins, Pep became world champion with Chalky Wright unable to fend off “Will O’ The Wisp’s” title charge over 15 sessions. Sugar ray Leonard’s idol was Robinson ( kind of obvious lol) and Robinsons tool kit had all of Leonard’s abilities and more. Found inside – Page xiiiThe Best Of The Sport's Most Notable Writer Bert Randolph Sugar ... Ray Leonard, Sugar Ray Robinson (there being only one Sugar Ray!), Willie Pep, ... Be respectful and come chat with us. This is a place for friendly and civil debate about the greatest sport on earth. Please read the rules before posting/commenting. However, their final two encounters were so ill-tempered and foul-filled (butting, gouging, tripping and wrestling) that Pep and Saddler were both barred from boxing in New York State. Then you lose your reflexes. Only a friendly exhibition match between the two old masters. This was in 1965, so both guys were Wayyy past their primes, still cool to look at though. It was a long, hard end for a fine fighter. Found inside – Page 92The fans also saw famous out-of-town fighters like Willie Pep, Sandy Saddler, Kid Gavilan, Ezzard Charles, and Jersey Joe Walcott. Sugar Ray Robinson once ... r/boxing does not tolerate racism or intolerance of any kind. Found inside – Page 98It was the knockdown fights between middleweights Tony Zale and Rocky Graziano, and featherweights Willie Pep and Sandy Saddler. It was Sugar Ray Robinson's ... Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. And in boxing perhaps none is more qualified to answer the question than Bert Randolph Sugar. In Boxing's Greatest Fighters, not only does the former publisher of Ring Magazine tell us who the best fighters were, he lists them in order. But Sugar Ray Robinson, was such a Picture Perfect Fighter and an Entertainer. Apparently, Pep fought Ray Robinson in 1938 in the attic of a feedstore n Norwich, Connecticut. When I first wrote this story back in 1991, it was said to be the most outrageous, untold story in boxing history. I never should have boxed that way. “The greatest fight of his life and the greatest night of my life,” he said to author Peter Heller in 1970. World champ Sammy Angott defeated Pep in a 10-rounder, Willie’s first loss in 61 fights (or 62 depending on your sources), but just 10 days later Pep was back in the ring, winning again. And while he did not deliver on his boastful prophecy – whether he had said he would or not is another matter – he enjoyed an extraordinary career, boxing 1,956 rounds in 241 fights. Willie Pep vs Sugar Ray Robinson 05-13-2009, 06:40 AM. Found inside – Page 140Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, and Willie Pep were some of the greatest fighters that ever lived. Sugar Ray was one of my idols. Learn more about Redditâs use of cookies. Found inside – Page 161... like he did in Sting Like a Bee, which he co-authored with sportswriter Bert Sugar. ... sense that Sugar Ray Robinson, Willie Pep and Joe Louis were. Welcome to r/boxing, the official home of pro boxing on Reddit! “Trying to hit Pep is like trying to step on a flame” – Kid Chocolate, “The longer he goes, the more astonishing he becomes” – writer Red Smith, “He was so clever, he could come up to an opponent from behind” – Don Dunphy, 2020 Boxing News. SUGAR RAY ROBINSON . Also included are original lists contributed exclusive to this book by more than 25 top personalities from boxing and beyond, including Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Oscar De La Hoya, Bernard Hopkins, and more. Found inside – Page 15This was the moment of truth, mano a mano: Joe Louis versus Billy Conn in match after ... Peerless Sugar Ray Robinson, solid Jake LaMotta, wily Willie Pep, ... Found inside – Page 8... a Willie Pep, a Sugar Ray Robinson or Wilfredo Benitez, Holly Mims or Ralph Dupas, Freddie Little or Luis Rodriquez, Willie Pastrano or Harold Johnson, ... In 36 fights over the next three years, only Jimmy McAllister drew with him as Pep’s stock soared. Pep boxed a total of 1,956 rounds in the 241 bouts during his 26-year career, a considerable number of rounds and bouts even for a fighter of his era. His final record was 229–11–1 with 65 knockouts. Pep, known for his speed, finesse and elusiveness, is considered to be one of the best fighters of the 20th century; after his 199th win,... Glorified sparring sessions. Legendary trainer Angelo Dundee who trained Muhammad Ali sits down with one of his favorite boxers and the Godfather of Footwork Willie Pep. I realised how great it was to be a champion again.”. He was close to East Coast Mob figures and always quick with a quip, particularly when it came to the fairer sex. Sign in or register here to comment. Sign up for the free Boxing News newsletter(s) here. He served in the armed forces in World War II and defeated current world champion Manuel Ortiz in a non-title bout. Found inside – Page 254... Freddie Roach, 406 rounds; Emile Griffith, 1,116 rounds; “Sugar” Ray Robinson, 1,403 rounds; Willie Pep, 1,956 rounds; Floyd Patterson, 419 rounds. Found inside – Page xiv... failed to defeat him in their next four fights, the fifth best boxer of all time behind Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Willie Pep, and Joe Louis. Published by Kelsey Media Ltd. Kelsey Media Ltd, Registered No. Collapse. Found insideFans got to see—for free—the established stars of the day, including Sugar Ray Robinson, Kid Gavilan,Rocky Marciano,Archie Moore,Willie Pep, ... All while being a senator. Pep vs. Sugar Apparently, Pep fought Ray Robinson in 1938 in the attic of a feedstore n Norwich, Connecticut. Because of this, Pep did not know who he was fighting at the time. Found insideA group of us used to go to his house almost every day to see films of the all-time greats, such as Willie Pep and Jersey Joe Walcott and Sugar Ray Robinson ... Found inside – Page 5The names include Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Willie Pep, Joe Louis, Harry Greb, Benny Leonard, Muhammad Ali, Roberto Durán, Jack Dempsey, ... If these two guys would have fight each other in their prime, who would win ??? Glimpses and snapshots on the life and career of Manny Pacquiao.The book refreshes his ring exploits from the time he turned pro at 16 to his bout with Joshua Clottey. “After we got divorced they kept the house.”, There was more… “I’ve got it made. 05822990, is a trading name of Kelsey Publishing, Registered No. 'In 1938 Pep fought Sugar Ray Robinson in the attic of a feed store in Norwich, CT.[4] Outweighing Pep nearly 130 to 105, the bigger Robinson won by decision. In fact, he fought on for another five years before calling it a day in 1960, aged 38, and then coming back in 1964 for a further two years. I think Srr had one of the best offense ever. Please read the rules before posting/commenting. The fight in question was against Jackie Graves on July 25, 1946, and the story came about when Pep was said to have told ringside photographers what he had intended to do, in round three. 'In 1938 Pep fought Sugar Ray Robinson in the attic of a feed store in Norwich, CT. Outweighing Pep nearly 130 to 105, the bigger Robinson won by decision. Book that tells the story of Manny Pacquiao, from his humble beginnings to the top of boxing. 2m. Tags: robinson, sugar, willie. Outweighing Pep nearly 130 to 105, the bigger Robinson won by decision. According to Pep's later telling, Robinson was an amateur champion in the state of New York, where amateurs were not paid, so he took a pseudonym to get bouts for money in Connecticut. Because of this, Pep did not know who he was fighting at the time. According to Pep's later telling, Robinson was an amateur champion in the state of New York, where amateurs were not paid, so he took a pseudonym to get bouts for money in Connecticut. Speed and skills were his mainstays, and a sense of humour saw him become enormously popular. Robinson was too big and too good. By the time he met former world title challenger Joey Archibald, in 1942, he was unbeaten in 41 fights and he defeated Archibald via 10-round decision before lifting the New England area featherweight title against Abe Denner. According to Pep's later telling, Robinson was an amateur champion in the state of New York, where amateurs were not paid, so he took a pseudonym to get bouts for money in Connecticut. Unreal, Nobody should ever deny his greatness. Found inside – Page 267Indictment in case of U.S. v . ... “ Sugar Ray ” Robinson - Kid Gavilan . Marcel Cerdan . Willie Pep - Joe Brown Tony De Marco_ Paul Pender . Sugar Ray Robinson vs Willie Pep exhibition fight - YouTube “He was all over me,” said Pep. However, in January 5, 1946, a plane Pep was travelling in crashed (he suffered a broken leg and back) and many thought the slick star was never the same again as he began to toil against lesser fighters (Archie Wilmer held him to a majority decision while Pedro Biesca floored him). THE myth is that Willie Pep, the great featherweight, once won a round without throwing a punch. ... Later on I find out that, too, is a phony name because he was really Sugar Ray Robinson. At 130lbs, Robinson outweighed Pep by around 25lbs and, according to Pep’s version, Robinson was already an amateur champion in New York where amateurs were not paid, so he was keeping busy in Connecticut under a pseudonym. Found inside... title bout to Sugar Ray Robinson; Jimmy Carter, threetime world lightweight champion; Beau Jack, twotime world lightweight champion; Willie Pep, ... “The decline of a boxer,” lamented Pep. Then you lose your friends.”, In retirement, Pep and Saddler boxed exhibitions and the Connecticut star also became an inspector on the local commission and a referee. Found inside – Page 212... use the occasional leading rear straight. q Observe masters of this style such as Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Gene Tunney,Willie Pep and Sugar Ray ... Winner pays $6.00 postage, overseas more. Found inside – Page 135Legitimate pound for pounds are Sugar Ray Robinson, Willie Pep, ... Buddy McGirt versus Frankie Warren was a peach of a fight because McGirt was an ... “First you lose your leg movement. He’s regarded as the perfect fighter, he had :Speed, Power,Technique,the ability to power punch on the back foot, etc. I couldn’t overcome the guy.”. “This was my mistake. The former champion said he took Saddler too lightly but gained revenge three months later. Willie Pep in your step. Glimpses and snapshots on the life and career of Manny Pacquiao.The book refreshes his ring exploits from the time he turned pro at 16 to his bout with Joshua Clottey. Just a reminder that exhibitions have always been kind of lame and unimportant. They met again at the start of 1949 and Pep took his crown back having never looked better than in their 15-rounder. is signed by the promotor Don Elbaum. Found inside – Page 416... hearing stories of the great Willie Pep (boon buddy to Sugar Ray) from her father. This experience would come to pique her interest in Robinson himself. Press J to jump to the feed. Found inside – Page 93... and personal heroism that Sugar Ray advocates as the standard for a boxer . ... Marcel Cerdan , “ Sugar ” Ray Robinson , Willie Pep , and Jake La Motta ... 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